On Dobson from the Matthew 25 Network.

Hey everyone, It is Grant from the Matthew 25 Network.  I'm a little surprised that is has not been diaried on MyDD.  But, Today we saw our first hard attack against Sen. Obama on Christian Radio by James Dobson.

you can listen to it here - http://www.focusonthefamily.com/

Instead of just reporting on what Dobson said.  And offering a response.  I wanted to share how you can help reach voters, like Dobson's listeners, so in the future they also receive a positive message about Sen. Obama.

This broadcast will reach millions of listeners on stations where little positive news about Sen. Obama is broadcast.  Fortunately, The Matthew 25 Network is a PAC of religious leaders, theologians, pastors, congregants and parishioners, and people who believe that religion should not be used to divide and instill fear but instead call on the better angels or our nature and call us to a higher purpose than ourselves.  As a PAC, we will be making the case to the very same voters Dr. Dobson spoke to today that Sen. Obama's message of hope and service is precisely the kind of message our nation needs.

Many of the folks that listen to radio stations like the ones Focus on the Family is carried on rely on those sources for their news.  Imagine if a Pro-Obama ad ran directly after Dr. Dobson's diatribe today, saying that ending War, fighting Poverty, and addressing Global Warming. We believe these are Christian Values.

This week our first print ads ran and will be seen by over 200,000 Catholics and Evangelicals in the coming days.  The next step is Christian radio.  

There has been a lot of indignation today, and rightly so, for the remarks of Dr. Dobson. You can Do something about it!  Donate to Matt 25's Act Blue Account so we can run ads back-to-back against Dobson.  He promised today there would be more segments along these lines - lets have an answer ready.  

For too long we have not responded on these stations, in these magazines, and with positive Christian voices. In 2008 things are different. As in the FP article on Catholic voters swinging to Obama.  This year, this cycle, that all changes.  With your Help.  If you cannot donate, join up on our website or facebook page, as we organize in the coming weeks.

http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraiser s/19684
www.matthew25.org



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Re: On Dobson from the Matthew 25 Network. (2.00 / 3)

Excellent work!  This is how we push back.

I'm firmly of the belief that we can swing the young evangelical vote to the Democrats this year if we can convince them that Jesus's values - economic justice, care for the earth, inclusion of the outsider - are Democratic values.  

We've got the right candidate in Sen. Obama - a man who can speak the language of Christians because of his own religious experiences - and party leadership that appears to be committed to winning over evangelicals when in the past many might have written them off.

And if we get the young evangelicals this year, in the year when the millennials will truly emerge as a major bloc, I think we've got them for the next thirty - which would be a major step in moving this country forward.

Excellent post.  Keep up the good work.


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by mistersite on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 01:23:51 PM EST

Re: On Dobson from the Matthew 25 Network. (2.00 / 3)

Thanks for the encouragement...It really looks like things are changing amongst Christian voters.


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by cardboard 1 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 01:25:21 PM EST
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Re: On Dobson from the Matthew 25 Network. (none / 0)

I know many people (unfortunately) who are Dobson following evangelicals - they will NEVER swing Democrat - the reason this needs to be responded to is so that some people who identify as Christians who have a history of being OPEN to voting Democrat will feel okay.  The other folk? Never.Going.To.Happen.  These same people believe Clinton is the antichrist for God's sakes & think W is a great man of God...


by jrsygrl on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 04:34:34 PM EST
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Dobson is the one who is picking (2.00 / 2)

..and choosing which Biblical quotes and passages best conform to his worldview.

Obama was merely pointing out the folly of using Biblical passages to justify policy positions.


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 02:05:54 PM EST

Where can I see the print ads? (none / 0)

Are they online somewhere so I can look at them.


by parahammer on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 02:22:38 PM EST

Re: Where can I see the print ads? (none / 0)

yep...there in a diary I posted about our founding - http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/6/11/1359 25/754#commenttop

There will be more...our website should be up shortly with them posted too!


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by cardboard 1 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 02:33:22 PM EST
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Re: Where can I see the print ads? (none / 0)

thanks, the pics are blocked at work, Ill check them out this evening.


by parahammer on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 02:40:02 PM EST
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Thanks for getting it on the Rec everyone! (2.00 / 1)


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by cardboard 1 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 02:47:49 PM EST

Poison (none / 0)

How about getting rid of ALL religious influences in our political discourse?

How about keeping all religious leaders in churches and synagogues and wherever else they preach, and out of policy debates?

I'm definitely angry at the Dobsons of the world, but if we replace him and his kind with "positive Christian voices", then I probably wouldn't know the difference.

Gay marriage, a woman's right to choose, assisted suicide, contraception, birth control, tolerance among peoples-- these are liberal/progressive values, and values that many religious find at odds with their beliefs.

I want to advance progressive ideas and values, and not have to cater to "positive Christian voices" every time there's a question about policy.

Keeping religion out of politics is the best course for our country and for the world.


by Sieglinde on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 03:09:26 PM EST

Re: Poison (none / 0)

I'm not particularly religious myself, but I don't see this coming any time soon.  For many people, religion is their prism through which they see the world.  In the same way that my thought process and values lead me to be progressive, their religion has a role on the way they see things.  No doubt a purely religious message or reasons for pursuiing certain policies is not sufficient, but that does not mean it should be wholly disregarded.  I think Senator Obama explains this the best, when he implores that those advocating whatever position, come with facts and relavence to everyone, instead of declaring something to be "right" because God said so.  I don't think its plausible to expect people who believe deeply to keep all of their religious beliefs out of political discussion.  I know I can't keep my empathy for those in tough circumstances, out of my political decision-making.  


by cycl06 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 03:34:44 PM EST
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Re: Poison (none / 0)

Certainly in the real world, borders can't be constructed to separate things like these.  Of course, what I meant for my call to keep religion out of politics and policies is to keep explicit religious forces out of politics and policies.

I have no problems with people of faith to participate in politics and policy-making, but I have problems when their faith and their leaders dictate how things ought to go.  I can understand that for some, religion is the prism through which they see the world-- but what I cannot tolerate is when they start to insist that everyone else use this prism to see the world.

It is a fine distinction, granted.  But we ought to be always vigilant to keep religious prejudice should to a minimum when governing and making policies for the good of the country.

I remain firm in my belief that religion doesn't belong in politics and policy-making.  I hope all progressives stand against the outsized influence of religion in our national life.


by Sieglinde on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 03:54:20 PM EST
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Re: Poison (none / 0)

How about keeping all religious leaders in churches and synagogues and wherever else they preach, and out of policy debates?
I'm glad Dr. King stepped out of Ebenezer Baptist Church and started participating in policy debates.

I'm glad Bishop Tutu stepped out of the Episcopal pulpit and started participating in policy debates.

Religion has a great deal to say to our notion of justice, our care for the earth, and our need to include those who are excluded.  Please don't let the fact that the Republicans have hijacked the largest religion in the U.S. turn you off to the idea of religion in politics in general.


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by mistersite on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 03:45:06 PM EST
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Re: Poison (none / 0)

For every Dr. King there's a white supremacist misreading the bible.

For every Bishop Tutu there's a white supremacist using biblical references to keep apartheid.

The very injustice that King and Tutu fought against have been mostly tolerated by organized religion-- until the revolutions that these remarkable men encouraged.  Don't you see the irony in all this?

King and Tutu are remarkable men, and many religious leaders are remarkable men (but notice that they're mostly men), but what they achieved ought not to be wholly attributed to their religion.  There were and are many fighters of injustice that don't come from the ranks of the religious elite.  Good men and women don't need religion to see the injustice in the world, and they don't need religion to dictate what is a humane response to injustice.


by Sieglinde on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 04:04:40 PM EST
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Re: Poison (none / 0)

Gay marriage, a woman's right to choose, assisted suicide, contraception, birth control, tolerance among peoples

This can never be seperated from the religious debate because the Bible/Torah speaks directly to them.

Sieglinde, Religion isn't the problem, but the lack of Tolerance is. We have long known that the average American voter wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer but both parties didn't mind because  each thought they could peersuade enough of the masses to vote their way.
Considering that 92 was an anamoly and 96 has an uncharacteriscally weak Republican candidate, Democrats never really countered the strategy engineered by Reagan of painting Democrats as being weak on religion.
Obama is going ot be the first Democratic candidate to take on this republican strategy.Luckily for us, he's running against the ghost of  Carl Rove and not the real deal.  


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by xodus1914 on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 04:15:50 PM EST
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ESSENTIAL READING ON DOBSON (none / 0)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/24/ 11556/3067/35/541003

a preview:
Every time I hear the name James Dobson, this utterly repellent quote unfortunately leaps to mind:

   Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.
    -James Dobson


by iamold on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 04:44:13 PM EST

Re: ESSENTIAL READING ON DOBSON (none / 0)


He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.
- James Dobson

Probably the only audience with whom James Dobson can honestly claim to be a big man.


It is not because I cannot explain that you won't understand. It is because you won't understand that I cannot explain. - Elie Wiesel
by Sumo Vita on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 05:26:54 PM EST
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Who cares? (none / 0)

Perhaps you haven't seen it diaried here because no one takes Dobson seriously enough to do it.  The guy distorts the Bible to support his twisted version of reality.  

Nor do I care enough about Obama to work up the energy to refute Dobson because to do so would only give Dobson credibility he hasn't earned and doesn't deserve.

"I think he's deliberately distorting the traditional understanding of the Bible to fit his own worldview, his own confused theology," Dobson said.

Insert something about goose & gander here.


by KimPossible on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 03:08:21 PM EST

Re: On Dobson from the Matthew 25 Network. (none / 0)

This Matthew 25 Network has one heck of a bizarre idea this time around.  Why possibly waste time on Christian radio?  This is not "Methodist church goer" radio.  These networks, like Salem, are as far to the right as anything Clear Channel or Fox has to offer.  Rebut Dobson in a one minute commercial?  Impossible--he's their guy.  Nobody even knows who this "Network" is--or cares to find out.


by leftfromthestart on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 05:47:15 PM EST

Re: On Dobson from the Matthew 25 Network. (none / 0)

I love that this is happening because this debate must happen. Matthew 25 is a wonderful call to help the less fortunate, but that is exactly what it is, a call for people not government. And for the leaders of the emergent church like Bryan McLaren and the Obama supporters of The Matthew 25 Network to pretend that it is better for the government to take on the responsibilities of followers of Christ is foolishness. The decline of volunteering that has occured since every major government program to fight poverty was started, should teach us something. An Obama administration will not help us solve anything with new government programs. The problems can only be solved by every Christian doing what God calls us to do in Matthew 25 within our own communities. Our current national and international problems are not caused by bad government, Republicans, Democrats, Oil Companies, or George W. Bush. Our problems are caused by sin manifesting itself in bad churches, self absorbed Christianity, "self-help" theology, to name just a few.    


by policywonk98 on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 01:02:24 AM EST

Re: On Dobson from the Matthew 25 Network. (none / 0)

Let me say, Im never suprised by the left.

If you want to really talk about Dobson, why didnt you include that Obama was the FIRST to call Dobson out.  And all Dobson was saying was "Hey, he has called me out and here is why we disagree."

Do you not believe that it is hypocritical not to include that Obama called Dobson out first?

Plus, if you read the Bible and take the New Testament literally then I guess you are "twisting" it.  You may ask, why not the Old Testament.  The reason is because the Old Testament Law was fulfilled with Jesus.

Report the news, thats fine, but report it ALL.


by pastorfranks on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 10:55:34 AM EST


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